Comments on: Edwin Jacksons Worst Enemy – the Tigers Offense http://eyeofthetigers.com/2009/06/29/edwin-jacksons-worst-enemy-the-detroit-tigers-offense/ The happenings of the Detroit Tigers. Sun, 21 Feb 2010 00:30:05 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Bunt Singles: Nate’s arm, Jackson’s support and Maggs’ numbers » Mack Avenue Tigers : A Detroit Tigers Blog http://eyeofthetigers.com/2009/06/29/edwin-jacksons-worst-enemy-the-detroit-tigers-offense/#comment-32 Bunt Singles: Nate’s arm, Jackson’s support and Maggs’ numbers » Mack Avenue Tigers : A Detroit Tigers Blog Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:00:54 +0000 http://eyeofthetigers.com/?p=79#comment-32 [...] J Ellet took a look at the support Mr. Jackson has received: 5.15 runs per nine innings he’s on the mound. (Or 3.55 runs per game he starts.) Of the 54 pitchers with similar innings pitched, he gets less support than all but three. Those three are all aces on low-scoring teams, too. Good company, bad luck. (Eye of the Tigers) [...] [...] J Ellet took a look at the support Mr. Jackson has received: 5.15 runs per nine innings he’s on the mound. (Or 3.55 runs per game he starts.) Of the 54 pitchers with similar innings pitched, he gets less support than all but three. Those three are all aces on low-scoring teams, too. Good company, bad luck. (Eye of the Tigers) [...]

]]> By: jelletlambie http://eyeofthetigers.com/2009/06/29/edwin-jacksons-worst-enemy-the-detroit-tigers-offense/#comment-31 jelletlambie Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:12:20 +0000 http://eyeofthetigers.com/?p=79#comment-31 Mike, It is misleading in a sense, which is why I broke it down in so many different ways to show the actual amount of run support he's getting, which isn't very much. However, RSA is the standard stat most media folk will use for this discussion so I felt it should be mentioned. And yes, if you divide 62 runs by 16 games you get 3.875 runs per game. The telling stat for me is looking at the actual number of runs the Tigers have scored while Edwin was pitching, as 20 of those 62 runs mentioned have come after Jackson was pulled from the game. That makes 42 runs scored in support of Jackson in the 108.1 innings he's pitched, which works out to 3.49 runs of support per nine innings he's pitched. No matter how you slice it the numbers are awful, which is a shame. Thanks for the read, and your thoughts. Mike,

It is misleading in a sense, which is why I broke it down in so many different ways to show the actual amount of run support he’s getting, which isn’t very much. However, RSA is the standard stat most media folk will use for this discussion so I felt it should be mentioned.

And yes, if you divide 62 runs by 16 games you get 3.875 runs per game. The telling stat for me is looking at the actual number of runs the Tigers have scored while Edwin was pitching, as 20 of those 62 runs mentioned have come after Jackson was pulled from the game. That makes 42 runs scored in support of Jackson in the 108.1 innings he’s pitched, which works out to 3.49 runs of support per nine innings he’s pitched.

No matter how you slice it the numbers are awful, which is a shame.

Thanks for the read, and your thoughts.

]]> By: Mike http://eyeofthetigers.com/2009/06/29/edwin-jacksons-worst-enemy-the-detroit-tigers-offense/#comment-30 Mike Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:49:04 +0000 http://eyeofthetigers.com/?p=79#comment-30 Isn't it misleading to say his RSA is 5.15 when they've scored a total of 62 runs in his 16 games? Shouldn't it just be 62 divided by 16 (which would be a little under 4)? During the game yesterday Mario and Rod said the Tigers were averaging 3.55 runs per game when Jax starts. Isn’t it misleading to say his RSA is 5.15 when they’ve scored a total of 62 runs in his 16 games? Shouldn’t it just be 62 divided by 16 (which would be a little under 4)? During the game yesterday Mario and Rod said the Tigers were averaging 3.55 runs per game when Jax starts.

]]> By: BigJP http://eyeofthetigers.com/2009/06/29/edwin-jacksons-worst-enemy-the-detroit-tigers-offense/#comment-29 BigJP Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:03:42 +0000 http://eyeofthetigers.com/?p=79#comment-29 I saw something in Jayson Stark's postings recently that showed Jackson among the league leaders in what they were calling Criminally Unsupported Starts. It seems like every season two or three guys will go without runs for the whole year. I recall Randy Johnson going through that once when he lost something like four straight games and allowed six runs total in those games. I saw something in Jayson Stark’s postings recently that showed Jackson among the league leaders in what they were calling Criminally Unsupported Starts. It seems like every season two or three guys will go without runs for the whole year.

I recall Randy Johnson going through that once when he lost something like four straight games and allowed six runs total in those games.

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